Amazon has just advised me that it is Jim’s Lion, and I have ordered myself a new hardback copy for £0.01 plus £2.75 postage – I can highly recommend others to do likewise, who don’t already have a copy, as it directly links in with what Russ was saying about going into surgical procedures, and so, for me, has become more poignant. Echoes of Aslan…

Maybe it was time constraints, but *I* found that Mr. Haigh missed many of
the cues Russ offered him… Perhaps he had some personal agenda, but what a
pity! I got the feeling Haigh was doing but Russ really *IS*.–
Look on this life as the illusion of appearance�emptiness, rely on the
unborn nature of mindand pray that you will be of benefit to others.All
practice is summed up in this.*~Spontaneously sung by Dechen Rangdr�l
(Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtsho Rinpoche)* *

*Not one atom opposes us.
*~Ch’an Master Hongzhi Zhenjue*

No wind is favorable to the sailor who has no destination in mind
*~Old saying
*
The more alert we become to the blessing that flows into us through
everything we touch, the more our own touch will bring blessing.
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Misread at Milton Keynes Central:
Life is further along the platform

heheheh!… YEAH!… Way out (as we used to say, back in the 60s)–
Look on this life as the illusion of appearance�emptiness, rely on the
unborn nature of mindand pray that you will be of benefit to others.All
practice is summed up in this.*~Spontaneously sung by Dechen Rangdr�l
(Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtsho Rinpoche)* *

*Not one atom opposes us.
*~Ch’an Master Hongzhi Zhenjue*

No wind is favorable to the sailor who has no destination in mind
*~Old saying
*
The more alert we become to the blessing that flows into us through
everything we touch, the more our own touch will bring blessing.
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I don’t think this has been mentioned here before?  there are a couple of pages related to Riddley Walker in Karen Lury’s book, The Child In Film.It says a lot about about the power of Riddley that she seems to use the story as a touchstone for her critical investigations even though, as she acknowledges, Riddley has not been filmed ( I assume she means commercially, apparently she doesn’t know of the filmed play 😉

“I have been interested in the way in which children in film manage not their apparent strangeness, but how they can reveal the strangeness of the world in which they live” p14-15  The Child In Film.

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“I have been interested in the way in which children in film manage not

> their apparent strangeness, but how they can reveal the strangeness of the
> world in which they live” p14-15 The Child In Film.
>

 

*wow! – how wide awake is THAT!!!

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(Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtsho Rinpoche)* *

*Not one atom opposes us.
*~Ch’an Master Hongzhi Zhenjue*

No wind is favorable to the sailor who has no destination in mind
*~Old saying
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Porpoises rescue Dick Van DykeOn screen, Dick Van Dyke has been rescued from untimely death by
flying cars and magical nannies. Off screen, the veteran star of
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and Mary Poppins had to rely on the help of a
pod of porpoises after apparently dozing off aboard his surfboard.
“I’m not kidding,” he said afterwards.

Van Dyke’s ordeal began during an ill-fated trip to his local beach.
“I woke up out of sight of land,” the 84-year-old actor told
reporters. “I started paddling with the swells and I started seeing
fins swimming around me and I thought ‘I’m dead!’”

Van Dyke was wrong. “They turned out to be porpoises,” he said. “And
they pushed me all the way to shore.”

The porpoises were unavailable for comment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/nov/11/dick-van-dyke-porpoises-rescue

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On 27/10/2010 16:07, Richard Cooper wrote:

> Krakenoids!
>
> It seems Russ is subscribing to the Leonard Cohen approach to
> late-life touring. The latest news, which I have from Russ himself, is
> that he and Will Self will be appearing in a “two-hander” at the
> British Library, London, with Russ talking about Riddley Walker and
> Will Self talking about The Book of Dave. I am assured this is
> happening on 2nd February next year, although the BL’s events page
> doesn’t mention it yet:
> http://www.bl.uk/whatson/events/date/feburary11/feburary.html
>
> I will let you know if I hear anything more, otherwise please keep an
> eye on that page (if only to see if their web content manager manages
> to spell “February” correctly… but then maybe it’s deliberate, I
> mean language is a living fing, innit).
>
> Looks like SA4QE 2011 and Russ’s 86th birthday celebrations will be pretty wild!
>
> All bes
>
> Richard
>

The just-received hard-copy of BL events has the following:

Russell Hoban and Will Self in Conversation

Wednesday 2 February 18:45-20:00

Thirty years ago Russell Hoban depicted a post-apocalyptic Britain in
the remarkable novel Riddley Walker, composed entirely in an archaic
future-pidgin English. Will Self’s The Book of Dave uses a similar
demotic called Mokni. A discussion, with readings, looking especially at
the speculative and modified language of these books, as well as Russell
Hoban’s wider writing career.

All tickets £3 / Conference Centre

Book Event Tickets: http://boxoffice.bl.uk
+44 (0)1937 546 546

Or in person at the Information Desk
Box Office open
09:00-17:00, Monday – Friday

T X

—

Tim Haillay email: t.h_____@_____.uk
Cataloguing Supervisor tel: 01273 873500
University of Sussex Library
Falmer
Brighton
BN1 9QL

Well spotted Tim! There’s still nothing listed on that “Feburary” (sic) page
on the BL’s site but if you follow the box office link to
http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase you’ll find the event near
the top of the page and can click “buy tickets” adjacent.Hope to see some of you there 🙂

All bes

Richard

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Tim Haillay <T.H_____@_____.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On 27/10/2010 16:07, Richard Cooper wrote:
> > Krakenoids!
> >
> > It seems Russ is subscribing to the Leonard Cohen approach to
> > late-life touring. The latest news, which I have from Russ himself, is
> > that he and Will Self will be appearing in a “two-hander” at the
> > British Library, London, with Russ talking about Riddley Walker and
> > Will Self talking about The Book of Dave. I am assured this is
> > happening on 2nd February next year, although the BL’s events page
> > doesn’t mention it yet:
> > http://www.bl.uk/whatson/events/date/feburary11/feburary.html
> >
> > I will let you know if I hear anything more, otherwise please keep an
> > eye on that page (if only to see if their web content manager manages
> > to spell “February” correctly… but then maybe it’s deliberate, I
> > mean language is a living fing, innit).
> >
> > Looks like SA4QE 2011 and Russ’s 86th birthday celebrations will be
> pretty wild!
> >
> > All bes
> >
> > Richard
> >
> The just-received hard-copy of BL events has the following:
>
> Russell Hoban and Will Self in Conversation
>
> Wednesday 2 February 18:45-20:00
>
> Thirty years ago Russell Hoban depicted a post-apocalyptic Britain in
> the remarkable novel Riddley Walker, composed entirely in an archaic
> future-pidgin English. Will Self’s The Book of Dave uses a similar
> demotic called Mokni. A discussion, with readings, looking especially at
> the speculative and modified language of these books, as well as Russell
> Hoban’s wider writing career.
>
> All tickets �3 / Conference Centre
>
> Book Event Tickets: http://boxoffice.bl.uk
> +44 (0)1937 546 546
>
> Or in person at the Information Desk
> Box Office open
> 09:00-17:00, Monday – Friday
>
> T X
>
> —
>
> Tim Haillay email: t.h_____@_____.uk <t.haillay%40sussex.ac.uk>
> Cataloguing Supervisor tel: 01273 873500
> University of Sussex Library
> Falmer
> Brighton
> BN1 9QL
>
>
>

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Sorry, should have added that you have to click “February” in the sidebar to
see the Russ event.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>wrote:

> Well spotted Tim! There’s still nothing listed on that “Feburary” (sic)
> page on the BL’s site but if you follow the box office link to
> http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase you’ll find the event near
> the top of the page and can click “buy tickets” adjacent.
>
> Hope to see some of you there 🙂
>
> All bes
>
> Richard
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Tim Haillay <T.H_____@_____.uk>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 27/10/2010 16:07, Richard Cooper wrote:
>> > Krakenoids!
>> >
>> > It seems Russ is subscribing to the Leonard Cohen approach to
>> > late-life touring. The latest news, which I have from Russ himself, is
>> > that he and Will Self will be appearing in a “two-hander” at the
>> > British Library, London, with Russ talking about Riddley Walker and
>> > Will Self talking about The Book of Dave. I am assured this is
>> > happening on 2nd February next year, although the BL’s events page
>> > doesn’t mention it yet:
>> > http://www.bl.uk/whatson/events/date/feburary11/feburary.html
>> >
>> > I will let you know if I hear anything more, otherwise please keep an
>> > eye on that page (if only to see if their web content manager manages
>> > to spell “February” correctly… but then maybe it’s deliberate, I
>> > mean language is a living fing, innit).
>> >
>> > Looks like SA4QE 2011 and Russ’s 86th birthday celebrations will be
>> pretty wild!
>> >
>> > All bes
>> >
>> > Richard
>> >
>> The just-received hard-copy of BL events has the following:
>>
>> Russell Hoban and Will Self in Conversation
>>
>> Wednesday 2 February 18:45-20:00
>>
>> Thirty years ago Russell Hoban depicted a post-apocalyptic Britain in
>> the remarkable novel Riddley Walker, composed entirely in an archaic
>> future-pidgin English. Will Self’s The Book of Dave uses a similar
>> demotic called Mokni. A discussion, with readings, looking especially at
>> the speculative and modified language of these books, as well as Russell
>> Hoban’s wider writing career.
>>
>> All tickets �3 / Conference Centre
>>
>> Book Event Tickets: http://boxoffice.bl.uk
>> +44 (0)1937 546 546
>>
>> Or in person at the Information Desk
>> Box Office open
>> 09:00-17:00, Monday – Friday
>>
>> T X
>>
>> —
>>
>> Tim Haillay email: t.h_____@_____.uk <t.haillay%40sussex.ac.uk>
>> Cataloguing Supervisor tel: 01273 873500
>> University of Sussex Library
>> Falmer
>> Brighton
>> BN1 9QL
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> —
> thoughtcat.wordpress.com ~ twitter.com/thoughtcat ~ youtube.com/thoughtcat~
> sa4qe.blogspot.com
>

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Just to say that this event is now all sold out, but if you know your
Riddley Walker you can still enter the competition to win a pair of
tickets at http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/competition/2010/nov/05/russell-hoban-riddley-walker
– this contest closes tomorrow (Friday) night so if you haven’t
already entered, now’s the time…All bes

Richard

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I suppose that I could look, Richard, but I haven’t found the web-site of (or for) The Guradian the most, as they say, easy to nagivate through, around or under the moment under, so does anyone happen to know at what time (if not midnight) to-night entry to the competition closes?As it is, I now do ideally want (if that makes any sense this early – for me! – in the mroning [always could out that way! the benign influence of a 3.00 a.m. Russ?]) a second ticket, as it would considerably simplify getting someone to a flight at Heathrow the following day, if I didn’t have to go down to King’s Cross and back that night (easy enough in itself from where I live, but hey!), but could bring my guest to see Russ first, before finding a suitable billet.

No one, I know, will want not to attend who has a ticket, but things happen at sea, Russ is a nautical guy, and he might raise a minor storm in some other Hobanite’s life that will allow not only a new body (so far, only given Amaryllis to read – because of ‘the dream theme’) to witness his emanation, but simplfy this Krakenite’s affairs…

If so, please advise your price!

Just to clarify to the group, if anyone has a spare ticket, Anthony would
like to buy one.The competition closes at 23:59 tonight! The link is
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/competition/2010/nov/05/russell-hoban-riddley-walkerand
you enter by answering a series of questions on place-names in Riddley
Walker.

Best of luck

Richard

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:43 AM, apsley88 <aps_____@_____.uk> wrote:

>
>
> I suppose that I could look, Richard, but I haven’t found the web-site of
> (or for) The Guradian the most, as they say, easy to nagivate through,
> around or under the moment under, so does anyone happen to know at what time
> (if not midnight) to-night entry to the competition closes?
>
> As it is, I now do ideally want (if that makes any sense this early – for
> me! – in the mroning [always could out that way! the benign influence of a
> 3.00 a.m. Russ?]) a second ticket, as it would considerably simplify getting
> someone to a flight at Heathrow the following day, if I didn’t have to go
> down to King’s Cross and back that night (easy enough in itself from where I
> live, but hey!), but could bring my guest to see Russ first, before finding
> a suitable billet.
>
> No one, I know, will want not to attend who has a ticket, but things happen
> at sea, Russ is a nautical guy, and he might raise a minor storm in some
> other Hobanite’s life that will allow not only a new body (so far, only
> given Amaryllis to read – because of ‘the dream theme’) to witness his
> emanation, but simplfy this Krakenite’s affairs…
>
> If so, please advise your price!
>
>
>

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Review in today’s Daily Mail: “…in the hands of anyone other than Russell
Hoban [the plot] would make for tiresome, pointless and self-regarding tosh.
However, once he�s got past the tangle of explanations for the book�s
mind-bending �dream of reality�, this bizarre story turns out to be,
amazingly, not only intriguing but actively entertaining.”http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/books/article-1328038/Russell-Hoban-Angelica-Lost-And-Found.html#ixzz155Wn8szY

Regards

Richard

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>wrote:

> Review in today’s Independent – “It’s a short, delicious book: consume it
> quickly.”
>
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/angelica-lost-and-found-by-russell-hoban-2125161.html
>
> (Haven’t read it myself yet, still reading the book – quick consumption in
> my case always leads to indigestion)
>
> Best
>
> Richard
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>wrote:
>
>> Well spotted Chris!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Chris <chr_____@_____.nz> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not another review, as such, but ‘Angelica Lost and Found’ does get a
>>> mention at the end of Russ’s piece:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/book-of-a-lifetime-russell-hoban-2119239.html
>>>
>>> Book Of A Lifetime: Russell Hoban – ‘Weir Of Hermiston’, By Robert Louis
>>> Stevenson.
>>>
>>> (Sadly, Russ’s piece was apparently posted without being subedited; the
>>> economics of 21st Century newspaper publishing…)
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>>
>>> — In the_____@_____.com <the-kraken%40yahoogroups.com>,
>>> Richard Cooper &lt_____@_____.> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > This is the first review of Angelica Lost and Found I’ve seen:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.metro.co.uk/lifestyle/books/845345-angelica-lost-and-found-lacks-commonsensical-reason
>>> >
>>> > It’s a positive review, if brief. Metro isn’t a very serious paper but
>>> > being a freesheet it does reach thousands of people which can only be
>>> > a good thing. I especially like the list of “related tags” the article
>>> > is filed under: “reason – commonsensical – angelica – hippogriff –
>>> > wonderland” – which are surreal in themselves but clicking some of
>>> > them brings up a weird assortment of culture.
>>> >
>>> > If anyone sees any more reviews of the book anywhere online please
>>> > post them under this thread. Beware though that some reviews may
>>> > contain more information about the book than some people who have yet
>>> > to read it may want to know. (The Metro review doesn’t come under this
>>> > category btw.)
>>> >
>>> > Best
>>> >
>>> > Richard
>>> >
>>> > —
>>> > thoughtcat.wordpress.com ~ twitter.com/thoughtcat ~
>>> > youtube.com/thoughtcat ~ sa4qe.blogspot.com
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> —
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>>
>
>
>
> —
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or – briefly put – he’s looking for a scalper..-_-.

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(Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtsho Rinpoche)* *

*Not one atom opposes us.
*~Ch’an Master Hongzhi Zhenjue*

No wind is favorable to the sailor who has no destination in mind
*~Old saying
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I don’t really profess to understand this comment, or, indeed, for that very reason, what other comment it relates to. Maybe others are more learned…Wikipedia tells me that ‘scalping’ might be:

Catching fish illicitly (and then removing them under cover of darkness)

Any sort of game played with a nail and a piece of string

Generally behaving in a boisterous (and sometimes irresponsible) fashion

Nouns apparently derive from all three activities, not only as to their literally denoting someone taking part in the activity, but by analogy:

Someone who is ‘chancing his arm’

Slang for someone who skateboards (or tries to do so)

Drivers for Royal Mail (and also drivers of unmarked white vans)

Even this didn’t help me very much, but perhaps Russ knows the answer

Scalping: I don’t know the context for its use here. However, none
of the suggestions from wikipedia make sense to me.The two meanings I am aware of refer to the practice of counting coup
by removing part of the victim’s scalp, as happened in the US and
Canada a century or more ago.

The second meaning refers to the practice of buying scarce tickets
and then selling them for inflated prices. This of course only works
when there are more people wishing to attend a function than there
are tickets available.

Hunting or fishing illegally, at least here in the US, is called
poaching, not scalping, as far as I know.

At 12:07 PM 11/12/2010, you wrote:

>I don’t really profess to understand this comment, or, indeed, for
>that very reason, what other comment it relates to. Maybe others are
>more learned…
>
>
>Wikipedia tells me that ‘scalping’ might be:
>
>Catching fish illicitly (and then removing them under cover of darkness)
>
>Any sort of game played with a nail and a piece of string
>
>Generally behaving in a boisterous (and sometimes irresponsible) fashion
>
>
>Nouns apparently derive from all three activities, not only as to
>their literally denoting someone taking part in the activity, but by analogy:
>
>Someone who is ‘chancing his arm’
>
>Slang for someone who skateboards (or tries to do so)
>
>Drivers for Royal Mail (and also drivers of unmarked white vans)
>
>
>Even this didn’t help me very much, but perhaps Russ knows the answer

 

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I had no idea the term wasn’t used in the UK, but here in the US a scalper is a (usually professional) ticket reseller.So called because they tend to buy up blocks of tickets and then charge extortionate prices for them. As in, “Pssst, hey bud, I can get you into that Riddley Walker event, but it’s gonna cost you your scalp … ”

 

— In the_____@_____.com, “apsley88” &lt_____@_____.> wrote:
>
> I don’t really profess to understand this comment, or, indeed, for that very reason, what other comment it relates to. Maybe others are more learned…
>
>
> Wikipedia tells me that ‘scalping’ might be:
>
> Catching fish illicitly (and then removing them under cover of darkness)
>
> Any sort of game played with a nail and a piece of string
>
> Generally behaving in a boisterous (and sometimes irresponsible) fashion
>
>
> Nouns apparently derive from all three activities, not only as to their literally denoting someone taking part in the activity, but by analogy:
>
> Someone who is ‘chancing his arm’
>
> Slang for someone who skateboards (or tries to do so)
>
> Drivers for Royal Mail (and also drivers of unmarked white vans)
>
>
> Even this didn’t help me very much, but perhaps Russ knows the answer
>

To judge from what now been written, I think that you must be right, Fred, that Wikipedia might have let me down, on this occasion!But I guess that I have always had some hesitations about a loose association of web-pages that purport to tell people things, but which is about as authoritative, if the wind is in the wrong direction (at the moment when one happens to consult any one of them), as the last person to have edited it. Then, Marilyn Monroe might turn out to have been first named Norah Jane, and apparently have been investigated for, or even found guilty of, un-American activities (with a chicken)…

A bit, I suppose, as if our own Richard Cooper were to announce, out of the blue, that Russ is going to give his Gaudrian (?) interview only on condition that he can wear a dress (= gown / robe?), because he wants to draw attention to campaigns that seek to raise awareness of the risk of breast cancer, say.

This has started today with a very nice piece by John Mullan on
reconstructed language:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/nov/13/riddley-walker-russell-hoban-bookclubI especially like the observation about ‘phrases derived from words
split open by catastrophe: survivors has become “soar vivers”,
experiment “spare the mending”‘.

I’m not sure though about his assertion that some words ‘preserve a
Kent accent: probably is “parbly”; orange is “arnge”.’ That sounds
more West Country to me. Any Kentoids here who can verify?

All bes

Richard

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It appears the link you now have to go to is
http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?agency=BRITISHLIB&organ_val=25385and
then click February in the menu

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>wrote:

> Sorry, should have added that you have to click “February” in the sidebar
> to see the Russ event.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>wrote:
>
>> Well spotted Tim! There’s still nothing listed on that “Feburary” (sic)
>> page on the BL’s site but if you follow the box office link to
>> http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase you’ll find the event near
>> the top of the page and can click “buy tickets” adjacent.
>>
>> Hope to see some of you there 🙂
>>
>> All bes
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Tim Haillay <T.H_____@_____.uk>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27/10/2010 16:07, Richard Cooper wrote:
>>> > Krakenoids!
>>> >
>>> > It seems Russ is subscribing to the Leonard Cohen approach to
>>> > late-life touring. The latest news, which I have from Russ himself, is
>>> > that he and Will Self will be appearing in a “two-hander” at the
>>> > British Library, London, with Russ talking about Riddley Walker and
>>> > Will Self talking about The Book of Dave. I am assured this is
>>> > happening on 2nd February next year, although the BL’s events page
>>> > doesn’t mention it yet:
>>> > http://www.bl.uk/whatson/events/date/feburary11/feburary.html
>>> >
>>> > I will let you know if I hear anything more, otherwise please keep an
>>> > eye on that page (if only to see if their web content manager manages
>>> > to spell “February” correctly… but then maybe it’s deliberate, I
>>> > mean language is a living fing, innit).
>>> >
>>> > Looks like SA4QE 2011 and Russ’s 86th birthday celebrations will be
>>> pretty wild!
>>> >
>>> > All bes
>>> >
>>> > Richard
>>> >
>>> The just-received hard-copy of BL events has the following:
>>>
>>> Russell Hoban and Will Self in Conversation
>>>
>>> Wednesday 2 February 18:45-20:00
>>>
>>> Thirty years ago Russell Hoban depicted a post-apocalyptic Britain in
>>> the remarkable novel Riddley Walker, composed entirely in an archaic
>>> future-pidgin English. Will Self’s The Book of Dave uses a similar
>>> demotic called Mokni. A discussion, with readings, looking especially at
>>> the speculative and modified language of these books, as well as Russell
>>> Hoban’s wider writing career.
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I shall – try to find time to – look at this item with interest…[By which I really meant, since the ambiguity is not helpful (or flattering to Ricgard’s (?) good offcies (?):

With interest, I shall – try to find time to – look at this item…]

In the maentime (?), Richard, who are you calling a Kentoid, which sounds a distinctly dodgy thing to be using (or trying to use) as a name, given the dubious effects that might be worked on that first vowel by regional variation, sound-shift, etc.?!

What would John Major, too, have made of it in his days in high office, with his particular way of syaing ‘want’, etc.?

Careful what you say about John Major. He was Pry Mincer, you know.

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:49 PM, apsley88 <aps_____@_____.uk> wrote:

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>
> I shall – try to find time to – look at this item with interest…
>
> [By which I really meant, since the ambiguity is not helpful (or flattering
> to Ricgard’s (?) good offcies (?):
>
> With interest, I shall – try to find time to – look at this item…]
>
> In the maentime (?), Richard, who are you calling a Kentoid, which sounds a
> distinctly dodgy thing to be using (or trying to use) as a name, given the
> dubious effects that might be worked on that first vowel by regional
> variation, sound-shift, etc.?!
>
> What would John Major, too, have made of it in his days in high office,
> with his particular way of syaing ‘want’, etc.?
>
>
>

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Sooner that, I’d reckon, than the Sheela-Na-Gig in a ll likelihood…PS I ow (? – crap k/b!) have my photos, as photos and as images on a CD, from Hoban at the Mad Geographers’ Bash, so I shall try to start uploading them to the web-site, or whatever one does, and trust that I shan’t need [too much] technical support! (Even got a few of Glibert and George, for those interested…)

There’s a review of  ‘Angelica’ in the current Times Literary Supplement, that aristocrat of the book-reviewing world. Excepting a few minor cavils, it’s a good one.Reading it on line seems a bit problematic at the moment. Some items for the current issue are accessible but the website is undergoing surgery at present, and I couldn’t get to the Angelica review. But if you invest in hard copy you also get a substantial review of the sumptuous new Alasdair Gray book – of his art work, portraits, murals, etc, relating them to his writing (I suspect there must be a few Gray fans out there in krakenland) and also a tribute to Harry Mulisch, the remarkable Dutch writer who died last week. And much else besides.

Alastair

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Thanks very much for that, Alasati or even Alasatirr (you may adopt, without acknowledging this as a source, either of these as user-names or the like, if you wish!), or even Alastair – got it at last on this weird keyboard!In particular, I was highly refreshed by that word ‘cavils’ being given an outing, as it were (in its original sense), and would ebcourage (?) everyone on this forum to use it at least once to-day to get a bit of impetus for a neglected piece of vocabulary – maybe Russ will use it on 22 November, who knows?!

Cheers aplenty, one and all, for Russ’ new stance (as I understand it), on putting himself in [what one might call] the public eye, because I cannae quite believe that his works would have been, in the same way, neglected to the same extent, if he had ‘put himself about’ more.

(I don’t disagree that I may misunderstand the extent to which that has been the case previously, but I do detect an increased activity, and I do wonder to what extent a man as sensitive as Russ has, if it means anythig (?), harmed his own cause by not being [or allowing himself to be] the focus of ayttention (!), as if the writing doesn’t remain central, when, for example, that is what one is being interviewed about.)

Anyone else’s take, insihjts (!) or thoughts very welcome, but I just don’t believe that, say, we would have had the same notion of Liszt, his life and his music if he hadn’t been [or prteneded (?) to be? – I know nothing about his pysche other than from a towering work such as the Piano Sonata in B Minor] a shwman [intended to be showman, but maybe shaman]!

Apologies, those not usually offered, for subclauses, parnetheses (?) (within parentheses), etc., which usually litter my postings!

Sounds good Anthony – there is a photos folder in the Kraken group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the-kraken/photos/album/0/list although it’s
not used much. Otherwise if you open yourself a Flickr account (which is
free and into which you can sign using the same Yahoo credentials you use
for the Kraken) and tag each photo “sa4qe” they will automatically appear in
the image slide-show on the SA4QE website. I suggest also tagging them
“russell hoban” of course.Cheers

Richard

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:02 PM, apsley88 <aps_____@_____.uk> wrote:

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>
> Sooner that, I’d reckon, than the Sheela-Na-Gig in a ll likelihood…
>
> PS I ow (? – crap k/b!) have my photos, as photos and as images on a CD,
> from Hoban at the Mad Geographers’ Bash, so I shall try to start uploading
> them to the web-site, or whatever one does, and trust that I shan’t need
> [too much] technical support! (Even got a few of Glibert and George, for
> those interested…)
>
>
>

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http://www.thepageturn.com/2010/11/books/fuse-8-interviews-russell-hoban/Russ talks to the US interviewer about how his writing changed when he moved
to the UK, and the tasty European origins of The Marzipan Pig. He also says
he’s working with Quentin Blake on two new books, *Rosie and Her Magic Horse
* and *How Tom and Daisy Did It*. Just as tantalisingly, for those in or
near Massachusetts, RH says he has had communications from a small family
who are doing a musical stage version of *The Twenty-Elephant Restaurant*.
Wish I was there!

Enjoy

Richard

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Thanks so much, Richard, for an immensely comprehensive guide to getting my iamges (?) more widely seen than the three poeple (?), myself included, so far!I shall hope to be able to do something a little later…

As to the photos themselves, since some were interested in the group shots that I took with the SLR, I had two extra sets run off when I had the film developed.These can go, at first option and also on the basis of ‘first come, first served’, to those who are actually in the images (so there are twop spare copies of each avilable), but limiting any one person to no more than two different ones (except Tim (Haillay), of whom there are near-identical side-views, for some reason, and who can therefore have a couple (or more) of those with out any quota applying!).

Once those featured have all taken their pick, I shall, of course, open up the remaining prints to all comers.

Please e-mail me *off site* (so that everyone else isn’t bothered about ‘I’ll have 13 and 23A@, etc.) if you are interested…

They appear to be there now, all twenty of ’em, in a file called ‘Riss (?) with the Mad Geographers’: beware, though, as only seventeen contain Russ-related matter, and any of the images – as they were produced in a factory that makes nut-related or nut-containing products – may have nuts as a main or additional ingredient, or may contain traces of nuts, nut-related or nut-containing products, or contain no nuts at all.All in all, nuts to it! (PS The enclosed box of matches may contain matches. We do not know how many, so we have given the average contents, i.e. 37. However, a guy in Glasgow has a bulging box, containing 70 matches, and the contents of your box has been averaged with that of his, so don’t count your chickens, I mean matches, before they have been struck…)

Excellent stuff Anthony, thank you very much for adding these photos to the
Kraken! There are some nice ones there, to be sure. So do you require
compensation for any prints that people may require?Nuts and matches, lol 🙂

Cheers

Richard

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:39 AM, apsley88 <aps_____@_____.uk> wrote:

>
>
> They appear to be there now, all twenty of ’em, in a file called ‘Riss (?)
> with the Mad Geographers’: beware, though, as only seventeen contain
> Russ-related matter, and any of the images – as they were produced in a
> factory that makes nut-related or nut-containing products – may have nuts as
> a main or additional ingredient, or may contain traces of nuts, nut-related
> or nut-containing products, or contain no nuts at all.
>
> All in all, nuts to it! (PS The enclosed box of matches may contain
> matches. We do not know how many, so we have given the average contents,
> i.e. 37. However, a guy in Glasgow has a bulging box, containing 70 matches,
> and the contents of your box has been averaged with that of his, so don’t
> count your chickens, I mean matches, before they have been struck…)
>
>
>

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I just spotted this on an excellent website called “Make” and it brought to
mind the Mobius strip riffs in Amaryllis Night and Day:http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/11/gorgeous_umbilic_torus_sculpture.html

Warpingly,

Richard

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—– Original Message —–
From: “apsley88” <aps_____@_____.uk>
To: the_____@_____.com
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:32:15 PM
Subject: [the-kraken] Re: Riddley Walker in the Guardian Book Club

As to the photos themselves, since some were interested in the group shots that I took with the SLR, I had two extra sets run off when I had the film developed.

These can go, at first option and also on the basis of ‘first come, first served’, to those who are actually in the images (so there are twop spare copies of each avilable), but limiting any one person to no more than two different ones (except Tim (Haillay), of whom there are near-identical side-views, for some reason, and who can therefore have a couple (or more) of those with out any quota applying!).

Once those featured have all taken their pick, I shall, of course, open up the remaining prints to all comers.

Please e-mail me *off site* (so that everyone else isn’t bothered about ‘I’ll have 13 and 23A@, etc.) if you are interested…

Please remove me off of your list. Thank you

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Thanks, Richard – I was pleased with how they came out, too.There will be others, but I have to track down what I did with the little Kodak disposable on which I took some other snaps, and the quality (as it always is, and always is with my shots) might be variabe (?).

As I don’t remember paying vry much for the coupe (?) of extra sets, I’m not particularly worried about that.

However, the actual mechanics of getting the deluge of requests handled, and sneinding (?) the right people the right prints might be taxing and take me forever, plus there’d be fiddling with the postage – so maybe it would be better to bring them along to Hoab (?!) at The Guardian to see if some can be distributed then.

If that seems best, then I won’t say no if anyone wants to buy me Russ, or even just a drink!

A

— In the_____@_____.com, Richard Cooper &lt_____@_____.> wrote:
>
> Excellent stuff Anthony, thank you very much for adding these photos to the
> Kraken! There are some nice ones there, to be sure. So do you require
> compensation for any prints that people may require?
>
> Nuts and matches, lol 🙂
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:39 AM, apsley88 &lt_____@_____.> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > They appear to be there now, all twenty of ’em, in a file called ‘Riss (?)
> > with the Mad Geographers’: beware, though, as only seventeen contain
> > Russ-related matter, and any of the images – as they were produced in a
> > factory that makes nut-related or nut-containing products – may have nuts as
> > a main or additional ingredient, or may contain traces of nuts, nut-related
> > or nut-containing products, or contain no nuts at all.
> >
> > All in all, nuts to it! (PS The enclosed box of matches may contain
> > matches. We do not know how many, so we have given the average contents,
> > i.e. 37. However, a guy in Glasgow has a bulging box, containing 70 matches,
> > and the contents of your box has been averaged with that of his, so don’t
> > count your chickens, I mean matches, before they have been struck…)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>

H’mm, not sure what this means, really…

— In the_____@_____.com, lochtie@… wrote:
>
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: “apsley88” &lt_____@_____.>
> To: the_____@_____.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:32:15 PM
> Subject: [the-kraken] Re: Riddley Walker in the Guardian Book Club
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
> As to the photos themselves, since some were interested in the group shots that I took with the SLR, I had two extra sets run off when I had the film developed.
>
> These can go, at first option and also on the basis of ‘first come, first served’, to those who are actually in the images (so there are twop spare copies of each avilable), but limiting any one person to no more than two different ones (except Tim (Haillay), of whom there are near-identical side-views, for some reason, and who can therefore have a couple (or more) of those with out any quota applying!).
>
> Once those featured have all taken their pick, I shall, of course, open up the remaining prints to all comers.
>
> Please e-mail me *off site* (so that everyone else isn’t bothered about ‘I’ll have 13 and 23A@, etc.) if you are interested…
>
>
> Please remove me off of your list. Thank you
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I usually doublecheck what I get from Wikipedia. I’ve found it
fairly accurate as far as facts–names, dates, places–are
concerned. Interpretations or judgments can vary, as could be expected.At 04:59 PM 11/12/2010, you wrote:

>To judge from what now been written, I think that you must be right,
>Fred, that Wikipedia might have let me down, on this occasion!
>
>But I guess that I have always had some hesitations about a loose
>association of web-pages that purport to tell people things, but
>which is about as authoritative, if the wind is in the wrong
>direction (at the moment when one happens to consult any one of
>them), as the last person to have edited it. Then, Marilyn Monroe
>might turn out to have been first named Norah Jane, and apparently
>have been investigated for, or even found guilty of, un-American
>activities (with a chicken)…
>
>A bit, I suppose, as if our own Richard Cooper were to announce, out
>of the blue, that Russ is going to give his Gaudrian (?) interview
>only on condition that he can wear a dress (= gown / robe?), because
>he wants to draw attention to campaigns that seek to raise awareness
>of the risk of breast cancer, say.

 

My Blog: Books and Movies and Stuff
Fred’s Place at http://tinyurl.com/5urlla

-= Fred =-

November sunrise . . .
Uncertain, the cold storks stand . . .
Bare sticks in water.
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A cheery photo of Russ, probably taken about 20 years ago, has turned up at
http://www.courierpress.com/photos/2010/nov/16/72463/RC

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Thanks, Richard. It is good to see Russ’s smiling eyes.________________________________
From: Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>
To: The Kraken <the_____@_____.com>
Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 11:52:23 AM
Subject: [the-kraken] Nice photo of Russ

A cheery photo of Russ, probably taken about 20 years ago, has turned up at
http://www.courierpress.com/photos/2010/nov/16/72463/

RC

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Ah, but Wikipedia isn’t an ‘it’, it isn’t a thing, but a collective, any of whom may be mavericks (a bit like The Kraken?):Google, of course, presents as an ‘it’, although many work on it, but one imagines that they are tasked to one end, whereas those who contribute material to Wikipedia or who edit what is already there have their more particular axe to grind, as (which I maintain) that the works of Beckettt and Kafka (amongst others) have more humour in them than either writer is given credit for.

If that ain’t your stance on B. & Q. (for K. is referred to as Q. in the enrty (?) that I quote below), then there will be ripostes to my thesis, and, although the text is supposed to develop organically, you either have faith in the Marxist struggle towards the truth, or you say that perhaps the more persistent voice will dominate, or something in-between.

Add in the spoiling activities of those who wilfully edit the pages to insert the spurious, and you have, in my eyes, not a good source of reliable information about anything, but the scenraio (?) described in this self-referential entry:

The story describes a mythical Babylon in which all activities are dictated by an all-encompassing lottery, a metaphor for the role of chance in one’s life [*]. Initially, the lottery was run as a futuristic lottery would be with tickets purchased and the winner receiving an unspecified reward. Later, punishments and larger monetary rewards were introduced. Further, participation became mandatory for all but the elite. Finally, it simultaneously became so all-encompassing and so secret some whispered “the Company has never existed, and never will.” [**]

A further interpretation is that the Lottery and the Company that runs it are actually an allegory of a deity or Zeus [***]. Like the workings of a deity in the eyes of men, the Company that runs the Lottery acts, apparently, at random and through means not known by its subjects, leaving men with two options: to accept it to be all-knowing and all-powerful but mysterious, or to deny its existence. Both theories have supporters in this allegory [****].

In many other books [*****], Borges dealt with metaphysical questions about the meaning of life and the possible existence of higher authorities, and also presented this same paradoxical [******] vision of a world that may be run by a good and wise deity [*******] but seems to lack any discernible meaning. This view may also be considered present [********] in The Library of Babel, another Borges story.

Borges makes a brief reference to Franz Kafka as Qaphqa, the legendary Latrine [*********] where spies of the Company [**********] leave information [***********].

My obervations:

[*] A bald and, to me, rather banal assertion.

[**] Suddenly, ‘the Company’ is alluded to (but we’re not talking about Camelot).

[***] Is this meant to balance the banality of [*]? As to ‘a deity or Zeus’, the phrase suggests that Zeus isn’t a deity, and why Zeus anyway?

[****] So it’s not ‘a metaphor’ any longer? Or are the words ‘allegory’ and ‘metaphor’ being twisted together as unwilling synonyms?

[*****] This is hopelessly unspecific! These ‘books’ are (largely) collections of other stories (and poems), sometimes essays, but whoever wrote this is being so vague that there is no basis on which to credit him or her with knowing anything else about the writings of this author.

[******] Let’s throw in another Borgesian word for good measure!

[*******] The phrase ‘a world that may be run by a good and wise deity’ strikes me as equally vague. Does the contributor have some personal view that is being stated as if in comment on this story?

[********] A feeble assertion, again with no weight behind it – what is being said might be true, but this is no convincing way of arguing for or demonstrating it.

[*********] There is nothing ‘legendary’ about the latrine in the English translations that I have read – it is described as ‘sacred’, but nothing suggests (except that Borges has made it up?), that it doesn’t exist in the piece’s own terms.

[**********] The ‘spies’ are self-appointed, so they are more in the nature of ‘informants’, who creep in to carry out this role, not a gathering of agents, as suggested.

[***********] I think that this overstates what I remember the position to be – I believe that the text is less clear in asserting, as fact, that this happens, or, rather, suggests that the latrine itself, whether or not people believe that what they leave there will make its way to the Company, may not really be such a way of reliably or at all communicating with it.

Sorry for labouring the point, but I really wouldn’t want anyone to take this Wikipedia entry as a starting-point for learning about this sublime story, whether or not it has been read first! I find it so keen to impart detail insignificantly or meaninglessly with regard to its major and unsubstantiated claims about what ‘The Lottery in Babylon’ says that it is not worth consulting, and is evidence that the means of accretion by which these entries develop (tend to) lead to a poor result.

A very positive review in today’s Guardian from Patrick Ness (author of the
Riddleyesque Chaos Walking trilogy):http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/nov/20/russell-hoban-angelica-lost-review

“Delightfully, inspirationally, just a few months from his 86th birthday,
Hoban is still at it. What’s more (and better), *Angelica Lost and Found *is
a corker, a wildly entertaining, intellectually adventurous and marvellously
odd attempt to answer a question we all must have asked ourselves at some
point: what would happen if a hippogriff in a painting fell in love with a
mythological heroine and went to find her in present-day San Francisco?”

No spoilers, really (I’m still half way through the book myself and one
basic revelation in the review didn’t come as a surprise).

All bes

Richard

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>wrote:

> Review in today’s Daily Mail: “…in the hands of anyone other than Russell
> Hoban [the plot] would make for tiresome, pointless and self-regarding tosh.
> However, once he�s got past the tangle of explanations for the book�s
> mind-bending �dream of reality�, this bizarre story turns out to be,
> amazingly, not only intriguing but actively entertaining.”
>
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/books/article-1328038/Russell-Hoban-Angelica-Lost-And-Found.html#ixzz155Wn8szY
>
> Regards
>
> Richard
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>wrote:
>
>> Review in today’s Independent – “It’s a short, delicious book: consume it
>> quickly.”
>>
>>
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/angelica-lost-and-found-by-russell-hoban-2125161.html
>>
>> (Haven’t read it myself yet, still reading the book – quick consumption in
>> my case always leads to indigestion)
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Well spotted Chris!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Chris <chr_____@_____.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not another review, as such, but ‘Angelica Lost and Found’ does get a
>>>> mention at the end of Russ’s piece:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/book-of-a-lifetime-russell-hoban-2119239.html
>>>>
>>>> Book Of A Lifetime: Russell Hoban – ‘Weir Of Hermiston’, By Robert Louis
>>>> Stevenson.
>>>>
>>>> (Sadly, Russ’s piece was apparently posted without being subedited; the
>>>> economics of 21st Century newspaper publishing…)
>>>>
>>>> CB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> — In the_____@_____.com <the-kraken%40yahoogroups.com>,
>>>> Richard Cooper &lt_____@_____.> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > This is the first review of Angelica Lost and Found I’ve seen:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.metro.co.uk/lifestyle/books/845345-angelica-lost-and-found-lacks-commonsensical-reason
>>>> >
>>>> > It’s a positive review, if brief. Metro isn’t a very serious paper but
>>>> > being a freesheet it does reach thousands of people which can only be
>>>> > a good thing. I especially like the list of “related tags” the article
>>>> > is filed under: “reason – commonsensical – angelica – hippogriff –
>>>> > wonderland” – which are surreal in themselves but clicking some of
>>>> > them brings up a weird assortment of culture.
>>>> >
>>>> > If anyone sees any more reviews of the book anywhere online please
>>>> > post them under this thread. Beware though that some reviews may
>>>> > contain more information about the book than some people who have yet
>>>> > to read it may want to know. (The Metro review doesn’t come under this
>>>> > category btw.)
>>>> >
>>>> > Best
>>>> >
>>>> > Richard
>>>> >
>>>> > —
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>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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This thread has gone slightly off-topic but John Mullan’s second article on
Riddley Walker is in today’s Guardian – this one focuses on “catastrophe”:http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/nov/20/riddley-walker-russell-hoban-bookclub

“Riddley Walker has no grand narrative. It covers about 10 days in the life
of someone who can hardly imagine a future.”

This is an interesting point – reading the book (which to be honest I
haven’t done all the way through for some years) I got the impression of the
action taking place over a longer period – and then I seem to remember
reading, possibly on the Kraken, Yvonne (I think) say that this is one
month?

All bes

Richard

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:52 AM, apsley88 <aps_____@_____.uk> wrote:

>
>
> H’mm, not sure what this means, really…
>
>
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> wrote:
> >
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> > To: the_____@_____.com <the-kraken%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:32:15 PM
> > Subject: [the-kraken] Re: Riddley Walker in the Guardian Book Club
> >
> > �
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > As to the photos themselves, since some were interested in the group
> shots that I took with the SLR, I had two extra sets run off when I had the
> film developed.
> >
> > These can go, at first option and also on the basis of ‘first come, first
> served’, to those who are actually in the images (so there are twop spare
> copies of each avilable), but limiting any one person to no more than two
> different ones (except Tim (Haillay), of whom there are near-identical
> side-views, for some reason, and who can therefore have a couple (or more)
> of those with out any quota applying!).
> >
> > Once those featured have all taken their pick, I shall, of course, open
> up the remaining prints to all comers.
> >
> > Please e-mail me *off site* (so that everyone else isn’t bothered about
> ‘I’ll have 13 and 23A@, etc.) if you are interested…
> >
> >
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The British Library’s site has now been updated – they still have the
creative spelling of “Feburary” on there but full details of the Will Self
conversation and a ticket purchase button can now be found at
http://www.bl.uk/whatson/events/event116259.htmlFrom the blurb the event does seem to be mostly about Riddley Walker, as of
course Self wrote the preface to the 2002 edition of RW – so anyone not
familiar with Self’s “Book of Dave” can rest easy.

Given that the date of this event is in the same week as Russ’s 86th
birthday and SA4QE it might also be a good opportunity to make a day of it,
if any Krakenites feel like meeting up in the afternoon beforehand?

All bes (agane)

Richard

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>wrote:

> It appears the link you now have to go to is
> http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?agency=BRITISHLIB&organ_val=25385and then click February in the menu
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>wrote:
>
>> Sorry, should have added that you have to click “February” in the sidebar
>> to see the Russ event.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Richard Cooper <tho_____@_____.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Well spotted Tim! There’s still nothing listed on that “Feburary” (sic)
>>> page on the BL’s site but if you follow the box office link to
>>> http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase you’ll find the event
>>> near the top of the page and can click “buy tickets” adjacent.
>>>
>>> Hope to see some of you there 🙂
>>>
>>> All bes
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Tim Haillay <T.H_____@_____.uk>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 27/10/2010 16:07, Richard Cooper wrote:
>>>> > Krakenoids!
>>>> >
>>>> > It seems Russ is subscribing to the Leonard Cohen approach to
>>>> > late-life touring. The latest news, which I have from Russ himself, is
>>>> > that he and Will Self will be appearing in a “two-hander” at the
>>>> > British Library, London, with Russ talking about Riddley Walker and
>>>> > Will Self talking about The Book of Dave. I am assured this is
>>>> > happening on 2nd February next year, although the BL’s events page
>>>> > doesn’t mention it yet:
>>>> > http://www.bl.uk/whatson/events/date/feburary11/feburary.html
>>>> >
>>>> > I will let you know if I hear anything more, otherwise please keep an
>>>> > eye on that page (if only to see if their web content manager manages
>>>> > to spell “February” correctly… but then maybe it’s deliberate, I
>>>> > mean language is a living fing, innit).
>>>> >
>>>> > Looks like SA4QE 2011 and Russ’s 86th birthday celebrations will be
>>>> pretty wild!
>>>> >
>>>> > All bes
>>>> >
>>>> > Richard
>>>> >
>>>> The just-received hard-copy of BL events has the following:
>>>>
>>>> Russell Hoban and Will Self in Conversation
>>>>
>>>> Wednesday 2 February 18:45-20:00
>>>>
>>>> Thirty years ago Russell Hoban depicted a post-apocalyptic Britain in
>>>> the remarkable novel Riddley Walker, composed entirely in an archaic
>>>> future-pidgin English. Will Self’s The Book of Dave uses a similar
>>>> demotic called Mokni. A discussion, with readings, looking especially at
>>>>
>>>> the speculative and modified language of these books, as well as Russell
>>>>
>>>> Hoban’s wider writing career.
>>>>
>>>> All tickets �3 / Conference Centre
>>>>
>>>> Book Event Tickets: http://boxoffice.bl.uk
>>>> +44 (0)1937 546 546
>>>>
>>>> Or in person at the Information Desk
>>>> Box Office open
>>>> 09:00-17:00, Monday – Friday
>>>>
>>>> T X
>>>>
>>>> —
>>>>
>>>> Tim Haillay email: t.h_____@_____.uk <t.haillay%40sussex.ac.uk>
>>>> Cataloguing Supervisor tel: 01273 873500
>>>> University of Sussex Library
>>>> Falmer
>>>> Brighton
>>>> BN1 9QL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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no, it’s a handful of days… ten, indeed, if my (now wonkiering) memory
serves…–
Look on this life as the illusion of appearance�emptiness, rely on the
unborn nature of mindand pray that you will be of benefit to others.All
practice is summed up in this.*~Spontaneously sung by Dechen Rangdr�l
(Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtsho Rinpoche)* *

*Not one atom opposes us.
*~Ch’an Master Hongzhi Zhenjue*

No wind is favorable to the sailor who has no destination in mind
*~Old saying
*
The more alert we become to the blessing that flows into us through
everything we touch, the more our own touch will bring blessing.
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If anyone would like a ticket to see Russell Hoban in London for his
Guardian interview tomorrow (Monday 22 November), a fan on Twitter currently
has a spare one – her Twitter name is @AliB68 so if you’re on Twitter please
contact her direct. If you’re not on Twitter though please contact me
off-list on thoughtcat [at] gmail [dot] com and I will put you in touch.Cheers

Richard

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If you look at the descriptions of the moon, it says it was “Ful of the Moon” (p. 4) on Riddley’s naming day in ch.1, but “Dark of the Moon” (p. 191) in ch. 17, when Riddley has that important revelation in the crypt of Cambry. So that’s half a moon cycle. After that, Riddley meets Orfing in Cambry and they wait for a “14nt”, I read this as a fortnight (p. 196), in which time he writes down the story, until they continue their journey to perform their first show. That’s why I think the story takes place within about a month.Best,

Yvonne

Am 20.11.2010 um 18:39 schrieb Richard Cooper:

> This thread has gone slightly off-topic but John Mullan’s second article on
> Riddley Walker is in today’s Guardian – this one focuses on “catastrophe”:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/nov/20/riddley-walker-russell-hoban-bookclub
>
> “Riddley Walker has no grand narrative. It covers about 10 days in the life
> of someone who can hardly imagine a future.”
>
> This is an interesting point – reading the book (which to be honest I
> haven’t done all the way through for some years) I got the impression of the
> action taking place over a longer period – and then I seem to remember
> reading, possibly on the Kraken, Yvonne (I think) say that this is one
> month?
>
> All bes
>
> Richard
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:52 AM, apsley88 <aps_____@_____.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> H’mm, not sure what this means, really…
>>
>>
>> — In the_____@_____.com <the-kraken%40yahoogroups.com>, lochtie@…
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> —– Original Message —–
>>> From: “apsley88” &lt_____@_____.>
>>> To: the_____@_____.com <the-kraken%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:32:15 PM
>>> Subject: [the-kraken] Re: Riddley Walker in the Guardian Book Club
>>>
>>> Â
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As to the photos themselves, since some were interested in the group
>> shots that I took with the SLR, I had two extra sets run off when I had the
>> film developed.
>>>
>>> These can go, at first option and also on the basis of ‘first come, first
>> served’, to those who are actually in the images (so there are twop spare
>> copies of each avilable), but limiting any one person to no more than two
>> different ones (except Tim (Haillay), of whom there are near-identical
>> side-views, for some reason, and who can therefore have a couple (or more)
>> of those with out any quota applying!).
>>>
>>> Once those featured have all taken their pick, I shall, of course, open
>> up the remaining prints to all comers.
>>>
>>> Please e-mail me *off site* (so that everyone else isn’t bothered about
>> ‘I’ll have 13 and 23A@, etc.) if you are interested…
>>>
>>>
>>> Please remove me off of your list. Thank you
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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yes – you’re dead right, Yvonne… at least a month.
thanks for pointing it out properly.

>
> If you look at the descriptions of the moon, it says it was “Ful of the
> Moon” (p. 4) on Riddley’s naming day in ch.1, but “Dark of the Moon” (p.
> 191) in ch. 17, when Riddley has that important revelation in the crypt of
> Cambry. So that’s half a moon cycle. After that, Riddley meets Orfing in
> Cambry and they wait for a “14nt”, I read this as a fortnight (p. 196), in
> which time he writes down the story, until they continue their journey to
> perform their first show. That’s why I think the story takes place within
> about a month.
>

 

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Look on this life as the illusion of appearance�emptiness, rely on the
unborn nature of mindand pray that you will be of benefit to others.All
practice is summed up in this.*~Spontaneously sung by Dechen Rangdr�l
(Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtsho Rinpoche)* *

*Not one atom opposes us.
*~Ch’an Master Hongzhi Zhenjue*

No wind is favorable to the sailor who has no destination in mind
*~Old saying
*
The more alert we become to the blessing that flows into us through
everything we touch, the more our own touch will bring blessing.
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>review in today’s Guardian from Patrick Ness

 

“It has to be said that not all of ‘Angelica Lost and Found’ makes perfect
sense …”

All well and good, really. Plenty of writers aim for ‘perfect sense’ I
suppose, but we’re not all flocking to see *them* on a freezing Monday in
November!

Looking forward to getting together at 5.30 pm on Monday 22/11/10 at ‘The
Fellow’, 24 York Way, N1 9AA (link at
http://www.thefellow.co.uk/location.php) before the ‘Guardian’ interview,
just along the road.

Top floor room (booked in my name) … get your drink at the bar below, and
bring it up (you know what I mean).

Best to all,
Roland

Well said, Roland!________________________________
From: Roland Clare <rol_____@_____.uk>
To: the_____@_____.com
Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 12:42:07 PM
Subject: [the-kraken] Angelica … and Hobanites’ gathering on Monday

 

>review in today’s Guardian from Patrick Ness

 

“It has to be said that not all of ‘Angelica Lost and Found’ makes perfect
sense …”

All well and good, really. Plenty of writers aim for ‘perfect sense’ I
suppose, but we’re not all flocking to see *them* on a freezing Monday in
November!

Looking forward to getting together at 5.30 pm on Monday 22/11/10 at ‘The
Fellow’, 24 York Way, N1 9AA (link at
http://www.thefellow.co.uk/location.php) before the ‘Guardian’ interview,
just along the road.

Top floor room (booked in my name) … get your drink at the bar below, and
bring it up (you know what I mean).

Best to all,
Roland

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Plenty of writers aim for ‘perfect sense’ I suppose, but we’re not all
flocking to see *them* on a freezing Monday in November!*heheh! – well spoke, sirrah!
.-_-.

—
Look on this life as the illusion of appearance�emptiness, rely on the
unborn nature of mindand pray that you will be of benefit to others.All
practice is summed up in this.*~Spontaneously sung by Dechen Rangdr�l
(Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtsho Rinpoche)* *

*Not one atom opposes us.
*~Ch’an Master Hongzhi Zhenjue*

No wind is favorable to the sailor who has no destination in mind
*~Old saying
*
The more alert we become to the blessing that flows into us through
everything we touch, the more our own touch will bring blessing.
~David Steindl-Rast* A Listening Heart*

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