>From: Alida Allison <all_____@_____.edu>
>
>Dave,
>
> I’m in the early stages of organizing a Russell Hovban confernce next
>fall at Warwick University in the U.K. It’d be helpful to the organizers if
>we had even a vague idea of who might want to come–there’d be plane fare,
>of course, but also a registration fee–probably housing on the campus
>would be pretty cheap: few hundred $ total for fee, room & some board,
>probably. Short conference, couple of days. No details yet, except the idea
>is to honor you know who.
>
>Could you run the question by our group just as a general inquiry?

 

I think you just did–remember when you hit “reply” to a list post, it goes
to the whole list, not just to the individual who wrote the post. So what
about it gang…who’s interested?

Alida, by “next fall” do you mean fall 2000 or fall 2001?

Dave

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I think I would need much more precise details on this before I can say
for sure one way or the other. Would be nice if Hoban could ever make it
stateside.Chris

 

On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Day Voll wrote:

> From: Day Voll <day_____@_____.com>
>
> >From: Alida Allison <all_____@_____.edu>
> >
> >Dave,
> >
> > I’m in the early stages of organizing a Russell Hovban confernce next
> >fall at Warwick University in the U.K. It’d be helpful to the organizers if
> >we had even a vague idea of who might want to come–there’d be plane fare,
> >of course, but also a registration fee–probably housing on the campus
> >would be pretty cheap: few hundred $ total for fee, room & some board,
> >probably. Short conference, couple of days. No details yet, except the idea
> >is to honor you know who.
> >
> >Could you run the question by our group just as a general inquiry?
>
> I think you just did–remember when you hit “reply” to a list post, it goes
> to the whole list, not just to the individual who wrote the post. So what
> about it gang…who’s interested?
>
> Alida, by “next fall” do you mean fall 2000 or fall 2001?
>
> Dave
>
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Hey gang, just wanted to let you know the latest news about Glims, which is
mainly that it isn’t Glims anymore. But first, as to what Glims means, in a
recent message Russ says:

>Your informants have informed you correctly as
>to the word *glims*. Scottish origin, can mean a glimpse, a lamp, or an
>eye de-
>pending on time, place, and context.

 

He then goes on to say that after talking it over with Liz Caldwell at
Bloomsbury, they decided that Glims wasn’t an inviting enough title, so the
new working title is (wait for it): Amaryllis Nights and Days. Amaryllis,
says Russ, is the female lead in the story.

I found all this out in the course of working on a (long overdue) news
update for The Head of Orpheus, which I hope to have up in the next few
days.

Dave

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The threatened update to the website has at last taken place. In addition
to the news update, I’ve added a photo of the view from Mr. Hoban’s desk,
in his study, to the top of the news page–now you can see what Mr. Hoban
looks at when he stares at the wall while searching for that mot juste.As always, proofreading comments are welcome.

Dave

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Hello, all –
Wanted to let you know that I have, after some correspondence with the Master of Malt people, tried to place our order for Russ’ birthday bottle once again. I am hoping, if the time difference and the fates permit, that the bottle will be in Mr. Hoban’s hands by the end of the day Friday, March 10.Once I know it’s been delivered, and I have the bill, I’ll let you all know how you can contribute to the fund. In the meantime, keep your fingers crossed!

Doggedly yours,
Slick
– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
Chrysanthemum growers –
you are the slaves
of chrysanthemums!
— Yosa Buson

Hey Krakenites,I was just noticing that we’ve had a spate of new members signing on
recently (in fact, our population has now soared to nearly 50) and, since
it’s been fairly quiet lately, I wanted to encourage the new members to
introduce themselves if they’re so inclined. Feel free to tell us what made
you a Hoban fan, what your favorite Hoban book is, what you thought of
Angelica’s Grotto, etc., or ask any questions you joined the list hoping to
have answered.

And okay, I’ll throw out a potential discussion thread myself: most of us,
I’m assuming, have seen the film version of Turtle Diary. If you could
choose any other Hoban book to be adapted for the big screen, which would
it be, and who would direct? (Extra credit: screenwriter, acting leads,
etc.) I ask, of course, because I already have an answer–as I’ve mentioned
to Chris Bell and Olaf previously, I’ve always thought The Medusa Frequency
would make a fabulous film, but that the only possible person who could
direct it would be Terry Gilliam.

Still trying to figure out who could play Herman Orff, but I think I’d like
to see Geoffrey Rush as the Head of Orpheus, and maybe Kelsey Grammer as
Gosta Kraken.

Next?

Dave

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Hello folks,
They really do it:The Turtle Diary
Russell Hoban Our Price: £6.99
Paperback ( 1 July, 2000)
Bloomsbury; ISBN: 0747548315
-not yet published-

It is listed at amazon.co.uk

Regarding the film projects:
I propose (desire is better) Fremder with director Nicolas Roeg. Does
anybody know his fantastic Don’t Look Now (1973)?

BTW, has anybody any idea what this book is about?
The Timescape of John Fowles: Toward a New Model of Consciounous of
Russell Hoban
H. W. Fawkner

Best,
olaf

Dipl. Biol. Olaf Schneider
-Interface- und Interaktionsdesign-
Projektleiter TIDE – Texte in digitalen Erfahrungsräumen
Universität Bielefeld, Fakultät für Linguistik und
Literaturwissenschaft,
Postfach 10 01 31, 33501 Bielefeld
www.lili.uni-bielefeld.de/~lili_lab/home/personen/schneider/index.html
Tel.: Uni 0521-106-3697
email: ola_____@_____.de
Privat:
Jakobus Straße 2
33604 Bielefeld
phone 0521-2703175
fax 0180-505254-216465

Hi,Don’t Look Now is one of my favouraite films. Donald Sutherland, Julie
Christie….bewarer of dwarfs in red coats!!! He did a great movie here in
Oz – “OutbacK”.

Re th e book _ I am not sure what book you are taliking about. More info
required?

Kerry Power

Re the reN.dloom nowI am not sure what the book is you are talking about???
—–Original Message—–
From: Olaf Schneider <ola_____@_____.de>
To: The Kraken <the_____@_____.com>
Date: Monday, March 13, 2000 7:13 AM
Subject: [the-kraken] Bloomsbury, Roeg and a mysterious book

 

>From: Olaf Schneider <ola_____@_____.de>
>
>Hello folks,
>They really do it:
>
>The Turtle Diary
>Russell Hoban Our Price: £6.99
>Paperback ( 1 July, 2000)
>Bloomsbury; ISBN: 0747548315
>-not yet published-
>
> It is listed at amazon.co.uk
>
>Regarding the film projects:
>I propose (desire is better) Fremder with director Nicolas Roeg. Does
>anybody know his fantastic Don’t Look Now (1973)?
>
>BTW, has anybody any idea what this book is about?
>The Timescape of John Fowles: Toward a New Model of Consciounous of
>Russell Hoban
>H. W. Fawkner
>
>Best,
>olaf
>
>Dipl. Biol. Olaf Schneider
>-Interface- und Interaktionsdesign-
>Projektleiter TIDE – Texte in digitalen Erfahrungsräumen
>Universität Bielefeld, Fakultät für Linguistik und
>Literaturwissenschaft,
>Postfach 10 01 31, 33501 Bielefeld
>www.lili.uni-bielefeld.de/~lili_lab/home/personen/schneider/index.html
>Tel.: Uni 0521-106-3697
>email: ola_____@_____.de
>Privat:
>Jakobus Straße 2
>33604 Bielefeld
>phone 0521-2703175
>fax 0180-505254-216465
>
>
>
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HI ALL!
Glad to hear that we have a steadily rising number of subscribers. I’m
curious that it’s been so quiet lately.I’m working through PILGERMANN these days. What a wild book! This is unlike
any other Hoban novel I’ve read.

Dave wrote:

> Still trying to figure out who could play Herman Orff, but I think I’d

like

> to see Geoffrey Rush as the Head of Orpheus, and maybe Kelsey Grammer as
> Gosta Kraken.
>

 

I can’t recall off the top of my head who Geoffrey Rush is. Kelsey Grammer
is a good choice, as is Terry Gilliam. I might suggest Bob Hoskins for
Herman. He can do “beleagured” pretty well.

Another directing choice I might suggest is Nicholas Roeg.

— Duane

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Duane Spurlock wrote:

> From: “Duane Spurlock” <Dua_____@_____.com>
>
> HI ALL!
> Glad to hear that we have a steadily rising number of subscribers. I’m
> curious that it’s been so quiet lately.
>
> I’m working through PILGERMANN these days. What a wild book! This is unlike
> any other Hoban novel I’ve read.

 

Glad to hear someone else working through Pilgermann since I think this is
(along with Medusa) my favorite Hoban book…though it is so hard to
choose.

As to movies, I am not at all comfortable that anything by Hoban can
translate into a film, however if I had my druthers I would go for a John
Boorman direction of Riddley Walker, filmed on no budget of course. Even
if they totally missed the mark at least we’d have something to laugh at.
The problem with so many other books by Hoban is that like Turtle Diary,
so much is lost in the transition to film it really doesn’t work at all.
Fremder wouldn’t be a bad choice either. I think the best pics are going
to be ones where there is plenty of action to make up for all the stuff
going on in character’s heads we are going to miss–which is why Medusa
might not translate very well. Personally I’d also be up for a new
version of Mouse and his Child but I’d have no clue as to who should do
it, only that it should be better 🙂

Chris

I really have to agree with Day Voll about the choice of Terry Gilliam as director of a Hoban movie, because I don’t know of any other director who can paint the “inner world” onto the screen the way he can — or visualise metaphor. I would love to see him do Pilgermann (as with Brazil, Gilliam wouldn’t flinch from a non-standard ending).I would have posted this earlier except that I have been ruminating over the cast for days. Who could play Bembel Rudzuk? Who, for that matter, could carry off Death’s wonderful lines? The more you think about it, the harder it gets … and there’s quite a large cast, too.

The problem with turning Pilgermann into a movie is not technical — with CGI, one can get anything to happen on screen these days — but with the religious establishment. I honestly have no idea what the churches, synagogues and mosques (so to speak) think of Pilgermann now, if they know of it at all. How would they react to it?

Sandra Smith

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I am happy with Nicholas Roeg or Terry Gilliam, but if they are not
available, how about John Sayles or Alan Arkin.I’ve now read Angelica’s Grotto and it didn’t thrill me in quite the
same way as some of the others, whereas Mr. Rinyo-Clacton’s Offer
(starring who else but Jack Nicholson as Mr. R-C) I re-read as soon as I
had finished it. Also Fremder bears endless re-reading. Fremder
perhaps starring that man who played Barton Fink?

Oh well for that matter, what about the Coen Brothers for directors?

Judy

Any “film” adaptation of any of RH’s books will lose much of that magic language
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There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in today’s digest:

1. Bloomsbury, Roeg and a mysterious book
From: Olaf Schneider <ola_____@_____.de>
2. Re: Bloomsbury, Roeg and a mysterious book
From: “Kerry Martin Power” <kan_____@_____.com>
3. Movies
From: “Duane Spurlock” <Dua_____@_____.com>
4. Re: Movies
From: ULTIMATE CHRISMOON <cam_____@_____.net>
5. Hoban Movies
From: “Sandra Smith” <ast_____@_____.com>
6. Films
From: judy backhouse <jud_____@_____.net>

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:51:02 +0100
From: Olaf Schneider <ola_____@_____.de>
Subject: Bloomsbury, Roeg and a mysterious book

Hello folks,
They really do it:

The Turtle Diary
Russell Hoban Our Price:
———-

�6.99
Paperback ( 1 July, 2000)
Bloomsbury; ISBN: 0747548315
-not yet published-

It is listed at amazon.co.uk

Regarding the film projects:
I propose (desire is better) Fremder with director Nicolas Roeg. Does
anybody know his fantastic Don’t Look Now (1973)?

BTW, has anybody any idea what this book is about?
The Timescape of John Fowles: Toward a New Model of Consciounous of
Russell Hoban
H. W. Fawkner

Best,
olaf

Dipl. Biol. Olaf Schneider
-Interface- und Interaktionsdesign-
Projektleiter TIDE – Texte in digitalen Erfahrungsr�umen
Universit�t Bielefeld, Fakult�t f�r Linguistik und
Literaturwissenschaft,
Postfach 10 01 31, 33501 Bielefeld
www.lili.uni-bielefeld.de/~lili_lab/home/personen/schneider/index.html
Tel.: Uni 0521-106-3697
email: ola_____@_____.de
Privat:
Jakobus Stra�e 2
33604 Bielefeld
phone 0521-2703175
fax 0180-505254-216465

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:26:39 +1100
From: “Kerry Martin Power” <kan_____@_____.com>
Subject: Re: Bloomsbury, Roeg and a mysterious book

Hi,

Don’t Look Now is one of my favouraite films. Donald Sutherland, Julie
Christie….bewarer of dwarfs in red coats!!! He did a great movie here in
Oz – “OutbacK”.

Re th e book _ I am not sure what book you are taliking about. More info
required?

Kerry Power

Re the reN.dloom nowI am not sure what the book is you are talking about???
—–Original Message—–
From: Olaf Schneider <ola_____@_____.de>
To: The Kraken <the_____@_____.com>
Date: Monday, March 13, 2000 7:13 AM
Subject: [the-kraken] Bloomsbury, Roeg and a mysterious book

 

>From: Olaf Schneider <ola_____@_____.de>
>
>Hello folks,
>They really do it:
>
>The Turtle Diary
>Russell Hoban Our Price: �6.99
>Paperback ( 1 July, 2000)
>Bloomsbury; ISBN: 0747548315
>-not yet published-
>
> It is listed at amazon.co.uk
>
>Regarding the film projects:
>I propose (desire is better) Fremder with director Nicolas Roeg. Does
>anybody know his fantastic Don’t Look Now (1973)?
>
>BTW, has anybody any idea what this book is about?
>The Timescape of John Fowles: Toward a New Model of Consciounous of
>Russell Hoban
>H. W. Fawkner
>
>Best,
>olaf
>
>Dipl. Biol. Olaf Schneider
>-Interface- und Interaktionsdesign-
>Projektleiter TIDE – Texte in digitalen Erfahrungsr�umen
>Universit�t Bielefeld, Fakult�t f�r Linguistik und
>Literaturwissenschaft,
>Postfach 10 01 31, 33501 Bielefeld
>www.lili.uni-bielefeld.de/~lili_lab/home/personen/schneider/index.html
>Tel.: Uni 0521-106-3697
>email: ola_____@_____.de
>Privat:
>Jakobus Stra�e 2
>33604 Bielefeld
>phone 0521-2703175
>fax 0180-505254-216465
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:30:30 -0500
From: “Duane Spurlock” <Dua_____@_____.com>
Subject: Movies

HI ALL!
Glad to hear that we have a steadily rising number of subscribers. I’m
curious that it’s been so quiet lately.

I’m working through PILGERMANN these days. What a wild book! This is unlike
any other Hoban novel I’ve read.

Dave wrote:

> Still trying to figure out who could play Herman Orff, but I think I’d

like

> to see Geoffrey Rush as the Head of Orpheus, and maybe Kelsey Grammer as
> Gosta Kraken.
>

 

I can’t recall off the top of my head who Geoffrey Rush is. Kelsey Grammer
is a good choice, as is Terry Gilliam. I might suggest Bob Hoskins for
Herman. He can do “beleagured” pretty well.

Another directing choice I might suggest is Nicholas Roeg.

— Duane

_______________________________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________________________

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:33:56 -0600 (CST)
From: ULTIMATE CHRISMOON <cam_____@_____.net>
Subject: Re: Movies

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Duane Spurlock wrote:

> From: “Duane Spurlock” <Dua_____@_____.com>
>
> HI ALL!
> Glad to hear that we have a steadily rising number of subscribers. I’m
> curious that it’s been so quiet lately.
>
> I’m working through PILGERMANN these days. What a wild book! This is unlike
> any other Hoban novel I’ve read.

Glad to hear someone else working through Pilgermann since I think this is
(along with Medusa) my favorite Hoban book…though it is so hard to
choose.

As to movies, I am not at all comfortable that anything by Hoban can
translate into a film, however if I had my druthers I would go for a John
Boorman direction of Riddley Walker, filmed on no budget of course. Even
if they totally missed the mark at least we’d have something to laugh at.
The problem with so many other books by Hoban is that like Turtle Diary,
so much is lost in the transition to film it really doesn’t work at all.
Fremder wouldn’t be a bad choice either. I think the best pics are going
to be ones where there is plenty of action to make up for all the stuff
going on in character’s heads we are going to miss–which is why Medusa
might not translate very well. Personally I’d also be up for a new
version of Mouse and his Child but I’d have no clue as to who should do
it, only that it should be better 🙂

Chris

_______________________________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________________________

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:25:35 -0500
From: “Sandra Smith” <ast_____@_____.com>
Subject: Hoban Movies

I really have to agree with Day Voll about the choice of Terry Gilliam as
director of a Hoban movie, because I don’t know of any other director who can
paint the “inner world” onto the screen the way he can — or visualise metaphor.
I would love to see him do Pilgermann (as with Brazil, Gilliam wouldn’t flinch
from a non-standard ending).

I would have posted this earlier except that I have been ruminating over the
cast for days. Who could play Bembel Rudzuk? Who, for that matter, could carry
off Death’s wonderful lines? The more you think about it, the harder it gets …
and there’s quite a large cast, too.

The problem with turning Pilgermann into a movie is not technical — with CGI,
one can get anything to happen on screen these days — but with the religious
establishment. I honestly have no idea what the churches, synagogues and mosques
(so to speak) think of Pilgermann now, if they know of it at all. How would they
react to it?

Sandra Smith

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

_______________________________________________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:52:38 -0800
From: judy backhouse <jud_____@_____.net>
Subject: Films

I am happy with Nicholas Roeg or Terry Gilliam, but if they are not
available, how about John Sayles or Alan Arkin.

I’ve now read Angelica’s Grotto and it didn’t thrill me in quite the
same way as some of the others, whereas Mr. Rinyo-Clacton’s Offer
(starring who else but Jack Nicholson as Mr. R-C) I re-read as soon as I
had finished it. Also Fremder bears endless re-reading. Fremder
perhaps starring that man who played Barton Fink?

Oh well for that matter, what about the Coen Brothers for directors?

Judy

_______________________________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________________________

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jack Nicholson! Ick! Mr. Rinyo-Clacton has to have something appealing about him, for heaven’s sake. Dissipated, yes, but appealing. Jaded and decadent, but inviting, all the same. Ian McKellen, how about? Or, Richard Harris. He’s sufficiently creepy but has his charming side. I just watched Spartacus last night, and if we could go back in time, I’d say the early sixties’ Laurence Olivier fits the bill exactly.But who would play Jonathan? More difficult casting yet – Serafina?

Goodnight!
Slick
– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
Chrysanthemum growers –
you are the slaves
of chrysanthemums!
— Yosa Buson

Diana wrote:

>Jack Nicholson! Ick! Mr. Rinyo-Clacton has to have something appealing
>about him, for heaven’s sake. Dissipated, yes, but appealing. Jaded and
>decadent, but inviting, all the same. Ian McKellen, how about? Or,
>Richard Harris. He’s sufficiently creepy but has his charming side. I
>just watched Spartacus last night, and if we could go back in time, I’d
>say the early sixties’ Laurence Olivier fits the bill exactly.

 

Two words: Christopher Walken. Just like he was in The Comfort of Strangers
(speaking of Harold Pinter films), only with a British accent instead of a
Spanish one. (It was Spanish wasn’t it? Been too many years since I’ve seen
it now.)

Meanwhile, the one thing I do like about the thought of Jack Nicholson
playing Mr. R-C is that it conjures up the highly entertaining image of him
telling Serafina to hold those potato pancakes between her knees.

Duane wrote:

>I can’t recall off the top of my head who Geoffrey Rush is.

 

He was David Helfgott (the older version) in Shine, which if you haven’t
ever seen it you should run out and rent it like *yesterday.* GR was also
the evil supervillain in Mystery Men.

>I might suggest Bob Hoskins for
>Herman. He can do “beleagured” pretty well.

 

My turn to be ignorant. Who’s Bob Hoskins and what’s he been in?

Sandra wrote:

>I would have posted this earlier except that I have been ruminating over
>the cast for days. Who could play Bembel Rudzuk?

 

Well…I’d have to nominate Ben Kingsley again. But then, I think Ben
Kingsley can do just about anything.

>I honestly have no idea what the churches, synagogues and mosques (so to
>speak) think of Pilgermann now, if they know of it at all. How would they
>react to it?

 

Well, as long as we’re talking a limited-release art house film, they’d
probably never notice it. That gang only gets their knickers in a twist
over things that play at shopping malls.

Dave

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> From: Ric_____@_____.edu
> Any “film” adaptation of any of RH’s books will lose much of that magic
> language and subtlety. Some of it might be regained with animation….

 

Exactly what I was thinking! I’d love to see an animated version of
Pilgermann, perhaps in the style of Hieronymus Bosch? It would take real
dedication to produce such a film, though.

Ciaran Mc Namara

> From: Olaf Schneider <ola_____@_____.de>

> Regarding the film projects:
> I propose (desire is better) Fremder with director Nicolas Roeg. Does
> anybody know his fantastic Don’t Look Now (1973)?

> From: “Kerry Martin Power” <kan_____@_____.com>

> Don’t Look Now is one of my favouraite films. Donald Sutherland, Julie
> Christie….bewarer of dwarfs in red coats!!! He did a great movie here

in

> Oz – “OutbacK”.

 

etc.

I receive The Kraken digest instead of as real-time e-mails, so when I
proposed Nicholas Roeg, I had no notion that the name of this great director
had already been posted by so many other folks. How interesting that several
of us think the same way (or at least in the same general direction)!

DON’T LOOK NOW, WALKABOUT, THE MAN WHO FELL TO EARTH, even THE WITCHES,
among many others . . . the guy has as singular a directorial vision as Ken
Russell. Something from his starting out as a cinematographer, I suppose.
He’s done some TV during the 1990s, but his film output has slowed. Maybe
he’s more or less retired.

Speaking of DON’T LOOK NOW, I heartily recommend the original du Maurier
story to the folks on this list. As remarkably atmospheric as the movie.

Another director I think would do a great job with Hoban is Peter Greenaway.
I haven’t seen even a majority of his films, but what I have — THE
DRAUGHTSMAN’S CONTRACT, DROWNING BY NUMBERS, PROSPERO’S BOOKS — are
brilliant. Tremendous visual feasts whose metaphysical elements aren’t
ignored for the sake of spectacle, but are in fact illuminated by the
images.

— Duane

Re: cast of PilgermannWhile Ben Kingsley is a brilliant actor, he might fit far better as the
owner of the property where the tiles are laid, that man being a middle-
aged contemplative. Bembel Rudzuk is a tall athlete, according to
Hoban’s description. Something Charlton Heston-ish except, I’m not
sure why, not Charlton Heston. After watching Rupert Brooke’s
charismatic Marlowe in Shakespeare in Love (and wasn’t Geoffrey
Rush fantastic in that!), I’m half-inclined to nominate him. Remember
the “dancing the earth” scene in Pilgermann?

As for Rinyo-Clacton, Christopher Walken is an inspired selection,
except for a conviction I have right down to my limbic center that
he ought to sound like one of those successful British men who have
tried to cover their native working-class accent. That was the sort of
act Peter Cook used to be able to carry off.

My Rinyo-Clacton is out on loan so I don’t have a refresher on all the
characters’ names, but as for the young protagonist, do you think
Gary Oldman could do it justice?

Sandra

<<

>I might suggest Bob Hoskins for
>Herman. He can do “beleagured” pretty well.

 

My turn to be ignorant. Who’s Bob Hoskins and what’s he been in?

>>

 

A character actor who rose briefly to starring roles, but now he’s kind of disappeared again. He’s the detective in “Roger Rabbit,” the driver in “Mona Lisa,” one of the repairmen in “Brazil,” Verloc in the adaption of Conrad’s “The Secret Agent.”

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I agree Christopher Walken is so much better – I completely withdraw the
Jack Nicholson suggestion. I don’t know what came over me. Must be the
late night postings.Peace,

Judy

On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Day Voll wrote:

> Feel free to tell us what made you a Hoban fan, what your favorite
> Hoban book is, what you thought of Angelica’s Grotto, etc., or ask any
> questions you joined the list hoping to have answered.

 

I’m one of those new members, pointed here by geegaw.com. A friend lent me
The Medusa Frequency about a year and a half ago, since when I’ve tracked
down what I thought were all of Hoban’s novels — I had no idea there were
three, soon to be four, novels never available in the US. Amazon UK
doesn’t seem to have Fremder or Rinyo-Clacton, and I’m reluctant to spend
$35 on the anthology. Any suggestions for shopping?

My favorite of what I’ve read is Kleinzeit, though The Medusa Frequency is
close. Hoban is much more visual and fiery than many of my favorite
authors (Donald Barthelme and Raymond Queneau, to name two), so I suppose
it’s not surprising that I like the more angular, quizzical stuff.

aaron

From: Aaron Mandel <aar_____@_____.edu>
<<I’m one of those new members, pointed here by geegaw.com. A friend lent me
The Medusa Frequency about a year and a half ago, since when I’ve tracked
down what I thought were all of Hoban’s novels — I had no idea there were
three, soon to be four, novels never available in the US. Amazon UK
doesn’t seem to have Fremder or Rinyo-Clacton, and I’m reluctant to spend
$35 on the anthology. Any suggestions for shopping?>>Welcome, Aaron!

Check out some of the online used-book searches like Advanced Book Exchange, Bibliofind and others. You can search for a title, then compare conditions and prices among the various entries displayed.

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Hi all

>I was just noticing that we’ve had a spate of new members signing on
>recently (in fact, our population has now soared to nearly 50) and, since
>it’s been fairly quiet lately, I wanted to encourage the new members to
>introduce themselves if they’re so inclined.

 

Actually I’ve been around the list for a while but not introduced myself.

What started me reading Hoban was a radio discussion running here in the
UK in which two guests each nominate two books that are very important to
them. The guests (and the presenter) all read the books beforehand and
then talk about them. A few years ago, one of the guests was Jonathan
Porrit (UK environmentalist, used to run Friends of the Earth) and he
chose Turtle Diary. It sounded so interesting that I kept it in the back
of my head and eventually stumbled across a secondhand copy. And I’ve
gone through most of the others steadily since then. I particularly like
the two viewpoints idea, and the book is written in such a quiet,
affectionate way that it’s probably still my favourite, although I
haven’t re-read it for a while. For the same reason I liked Angelica’s
Grotto very much, especially the last few chapters which I feel contain
some of Hoban’s best writing.

(Porrit’s other choice, if you’re interested, was Fritjof Capra’s ‘The
Turning Point.’)

By the way, I have two copies of Rinyo-Clacton (someone bought me a
present, not knowing that I already had a copy!) so if anyone can’t get
hold of it and would like me to send them one, let me know.

Mike

I much enjoy Russ’ extraordinary essays and snappy short
stories–many are collected in The Moment under the MOment, Jonathan
Cape–1994/96? Two of my favorite stories are in it “The Raven” and “The
Man wih the Dagger”; for the latter, you have first to read Borges’ “The
South.”I mention it cause it might be available through used book
sources–not sure it it’s still in print.

Re The Russell Hoban Omnibus, which has a lot of diverse writing in
it–by the time you finish looking on the web, paying for shipping, and
probably not getting all the material in the Omnibus, it may actually
turn out to be more economical to buy the book –is it $35? Plus there’s
stuff in it you’ll not get in any other form, like the taste of “The
Return of Manny Rat.” (Glad that wasn’t turned into an entire book,
actually!)

How about Johnny Depp for a part in a HOban movie–anybody who can play
Hunter S. Thompson and Ichabod Crane is certainly versatile enough.
Christopher Walken would be a good Rinyo-Clacton. I do think Bob Hoskins
would be a good Angelica’s Grotto protagonist.

alida

Duane Spurlock wrote:

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>
> From: Aaron Mandel <aar_____@_____.edu>
> <<I’m one of those new members, pointed here by geegaw.com. A friend lent me
> The Medusa Frequency about a year and a half ago, since when I’ve tracked
> down what I thought were all of Hoban’s novels — I had no idea there were
> three, soon to be four, novels never available in the US. Amazon UK
> doesn’t seem to have Fremder or Rinyo-Clacton, and I’m reluctant to spend
> $35 on the anthology. Any suggestions for shopping?>>
>
> Welcome, Aaron!
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, alida allison wrote:

> From: alida allison <all_____@_____.edu>
>
> I much enjoy Russ’ extraordinary essays and snappy short
> stories–many are collected in The Moment under the MOment, Jonathan
> Cape–1994/96? Two of my favorite stories are in it “The Raven” and “The
> Man wih the Dagger”; for the latter, you have first to read Borges’ “The
> South.”

 

Fortunately The Raven did make it into the omnibus, but my favorite story
from that set, Schwartz, did not. As much as I like the omnibus, it
really isn’t a suppliment for Moment which should be acquired by whatever
means neccisary. Also, I really wasn’t aware of how much the marzipan pig
needed its illustrations…I’ll need to find a copy of that book someday
as well…

>
> How about Johnny Depp for a part in a HOban movie–anybody who can play
> Hunter S. Thompson and Ichabod Crane is certainly versatile enough.

 

I may not be in agreement with anything else, but I am in agreement with
this…if Depp can play William Blake in Dead Man, he is ready for Hoban
🙂

Chris

Hello people,Well, my vote is definitely on Peter O’Toole for Mr Rinyo-Clacton. He’s
great at pulling off the multimillionaire luvvie bit, but he can “do” nasty,
too.

Recently got The Serpent Tower after losing my copy to an ex girlfriend
years and years and years ago. This – more than any of Russell’s children’s
books – matches his adult stuff, I reckon.

Speak to you soon, likeminded buddies.

Andy Barding

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> On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, alida allison wrote:
>
> > From: alida allison <all_____@_____.edu>
> >
> > I much enjoy Russ’ extraordinary essays and snappy short
> > stories–many are collected in The Moment under the MOment, Jonathan
> > Cape–1994/96? Two of my favorite stories are in it “The Raven” and “The
> > Man wih the Dagger”; for the latter, you have first to read Borges’ “The
> > South.”
>
> Fortunately The Raven did make it into the omnibus, but my favorite story
> from that set, Schwartz, did not. As much as I like the omnibus, it
> really isn’t a suppliment for Moment which should be acquired by whatever
> means neccisary. Also, I really wasn’t aware of how much the marzipan pig
> needed its illustrations…I’ll need to find a copy of that book someday
> as well…
>
> >
> > How about Johnny Depp for a part in a HOban movie–anybody who can play
> > Hunter S. Thompson and Ichabod Crane is certainly versatile enough.
>
> I may not be in agreement with anything else, but I am in agreement with
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> 🙂
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Hoban movies???I really think RW is makeable, maybe not a movie but a series over 6-8
episodes. I think Fremder would be great.

Kerry

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Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 1:30 AM
Subject: [the-kraken] Hoban Movies

 

>From: “Sandra Smith” <ast_____@_____.com>
>
>I really have to agree with Day Voll about the choice of Terry Gilliam as

director of a Hoban movie, because I don’t know of any other director who
can paint the “inner world” onto the screen the way he can — or visualise
metaphor. I would love to see him do Pilgermann (as with Brazil, Gilliam
wouldn’t flinch from a non-standard ending).

>
>I would have posted this earlier except that I have been ruminating over

the cast for days. Who could play Bembel Rudzuk? Who, for that matter, could
carry off Death’s wonderful lines? The more you think about it, the harder
it gets … and there’s quite a large cast, too.

>
>The problem with turning Pilgermann into a movie is not technical — with

CGI, one can get anything to happen on screen these days — but with the
religious establishment. I honestly have no idea what the churches,
synagogues and mosques (so to speak) think of Pilgermann now, if they know
of it at all. How would they react to it?

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Well, my vote is definitely on Peter O’Toole for Mr Rinyo-Clacton. He’s
great at pulling off the multimillionaire luvvie bit, but he can “do” nasty,
too.

Sandra sez:

Inspired! Yes! Exactly the voice and accent I was yearning for! I also
gladly yield to the idea of Johnny Depp playing opposite O’Toole (the
Gary Oldman of my dreams was the one in Rosenkrantz & Guilden-
stern Are Dead). O’Toole would eclipse practically anyone else.

I’m glad the casting is being so finely tuned -I’m absolutely in for
O’Toole & Depp.Judy

well for what it is worth, here is my fantasy.
Peter O’Toole, Anthony Hopkins, Ian McKellan, Kate Blanchett in a Dennis Potter
style (Singing Detective) version of Kleinzeit. Plus an animated short of
M.O.L.E. (Jonathan Cape 1993) shown before hand.I was just a bit disappointed with the ending of the great book Angelica’s
Grotto. Perhaps because I was reading Jeanette Winterson “The World and Other
Places” at the same time, I had some fantasy of collaboration. However the
topic is “Film Fantasy ” and not genetically modified writers.

Dennis

Day Voll wrote:

> From: Day Voll <day_____@_____.com>
>
> Hey Krakenites,
>
> I was just noticing that we’ve had a spate of new members signing on
> recently (in fact, our population has now soared to nearly 50) and, since
> it’s been fairly quiet lately, I wanted to encourage the new members to
> introduce themselves if they’re so inclined. Feel free to tell us what made
> you a Hoban fan, what your favorite Hoban book is, what you thought of
> Angelica’s Grotto, etc., or ask any questions you joined the list hoping to
> have answered.
>
> And okay, I’ll throw out a potential discussion thread myself: most of us,
> I’m assuming, have seen the film version of Turtle Diary. If you could
> choose any other Hoban book to be adapted for the big screen, which would
> it be, and who would direct? (Extra credit: screenwriter, acting leads,
> etc.) I ask, of course, because I already have an answer–as I’ve mentioned
> to Chris Bell and Olaf previously, I’ve always thought The Medusa Frequency
> would make a fabulous film, but that the only possible person who could
> direct it would be Terry Gilliam.
>
> Still trying to figure out who could play Herman Orff, but I think I’d like
> to see Geoffrey Rush as the Head of Orpheus, and maybe Kelsey Grammer as
> Gosta Kraken.
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Hi all.For a few days now, I’ve been following the film discussion with a wry smile
on my face. At first, pressure of work held me up from contributing my own
thoughts. Gradually, though, you’ve all taken most of my best suggestions! I
think Wim Wenders (‘Paris, Texas’, ‘Himmel ueber Berlin’/’Wings of Desire’)
would be another director candidate – possibly ‘The Medusa Frequency’. Peter
O’Toole as Rinyo-Clacton? Inspired! I know there are reservations about
whether you could actually do _anything_ by Hoban justice in film. But it’s
nice to fantasise…

Which is what finally got me to add my two-pennies-worth to this discussion
was the following wistful thought: Wouldn’t it be a wonderful world in which
we could actually cast and realise a movie like this by consensus – I can
see the fax, on Orpheus-Headed paper: “Dear Mr Hoskins, you have been
elected by the Krakenites to play Hermann Orff [was it Orff…?] in the
Terry Gilliam-directed motion picture of Russell Hoban’s ‘Medusa
Frequency’… are you available for shooting from October…”

Excuse me.

Chris

P.S.: Wim Wenders could just play a kind of directorial cameo role by
shooting the black and white Krakenspeak sequences for Goesta Kraken’s
ludicrous-sounding BLVGSVO film in ‘Medusa’. I bet that would make him
laugh!

Hello people,Re- Russell shopping. My local bookshop has one (ONE ONLY!) Rinyo-Clacton in
stock. If anybody would like it, I’ll pick it up.

If anybody can get me a copy of Fremder, you’d be doing me a grand favour
too.

All the best,

Andy Barding

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>
> From: Aaron Mandel <aar_____@_____.edu>
> <<I’m one of those new members, pointed here by geegaw.com. A friend lent

me

> The Medusa Frequency about a year and a half ago, since when I’ve tracked
> down what I thought were all of Hoban’s novels — I had no idea there were
> three, soon to be four, novels never available in the US. Amazon UK
> doesn’t seem to have Fremder or Rinyo-Clacton, and I’m reluctant to spend
> $35 on the anthology. Any suggestions for shopping?>>
>
> Welcome, Aaron!
>
> Check out some of the online used-book searches like Advanced Book

Exchange, Bibliofind and others. You can search for a title, then compare
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The sonorous Chris Bell wrote:

>For a few days now, I’ve been following the film discussion with a wry smile
>on my face. At first, pressure of work held me up from contributing my own
>thoughts. Gradually, though, you’ve all taken most of my best suggestions! I
>think Wim Wenders (‘Paris, Texas’, ‘Himmel ueber Berlin’/’Wings of Desire’)
>would be another director candidate – possibly ‘The Medusa Frequency’.

 

Actually, if you hadn’t mentioned WW I would have myself sooner or later,
given that Wings of Desire is still my all time favorite film. I think Wim
might be a good choice for the (hypothetical) film version of Fremder, or
maybe Pilgermann.

I also have the idea that there out to be a job for Jim Jarmusch out there
somewhere. In fact, now that I think of it, if “The Man with the Dagger”
could be expanded into a full-length film, it would be IDEAL for Jarmusch.

>Peter
>O’Toole as Rinyo-Clacton? Inspired! I know there are reservations about
>whether you could actually do _anything_ by Hoban justice in film. But it’s
>nice to fantasise…

 

You know, I have to confess that I’m not sold on Peter O–in fact, I’m
still holding out for Christopher Walken in my own inner movie theatre.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a big fan of Peter O’Toole–but while I think that
he could capture Mr. R-C’s archness and refinement, Mr. R-C also has a
certain quality of menacing machismo lurking underneath that cologned
exterior–what we in the gay community would call a “leather” quality–that
I feel Walken could capture much better. Because I’ve already seen him do
it, in the aforementioned Comfort of Strangers.

All of which leads to a great opportunity–since The Kraken was launched
I’ve been dying to make use of Onelist’s capacity for running polls, and
hadn’t settled on the right topic. Wasn’t in the mood for a predictable
favorite-book horse race. So what I’m going to do is set up a poll on
casting Rinyo-Clacton, and let all us Krakenites vote on the major nominees
so far:

–Ian McKellan
–Jack Nicholson
–Laurence Olivier
–Peter O-Toole
–Christopher Walken

Judy, I know that technically you withdrew the Jack Nicholson nomination,
but I figure there might be other folks out there who like the idea–and
besides, 5 is a nice round number of candidates. I’m going to go set up the
poll now.

By the by, I just noticed that Bob Hoskins is going to be playing Mr.
Micawber in the new Masterpiece Theatre version of my favorite Dickens
novel, David Copperfield. It’s an amazing cast, which also features Maggie
Smith as Betsey Trotwood and Ian McKellan as the evil headmaster…

Dave

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Enter your vote today! Check out the new poll for the the-kraken
group:Who would play Mr Rinyo-Clacton in the ideal film version of Mr Rinyo-Clacton’s Offer?

o Ian McKellan
o Jack Nicholson
o Laurence Olivier
o Peter O’Toole
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Thanks!

Okay, I’ve just fulfilled my threat. You all didn’t realize how tenuous my
grip on reality is, did you? Well, Diana did. Diana knows everything, and
besides she’s seen me screaming at small rubber ducks on stage. And worse.Anyway, as you’ve seen in the previous message, the poll is up and all list
members can vote. The poll will be closed on or around Tuesday at midnight,
US Central time, so if you want to participate, don’t delay. That link
again:

http://www.onelist.com/polls/the-kraken

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It’s very pleasing to note that many of you Krakenites agree with my Peter
O’Toole as R-C suggestion. Now, go vote!!!Turtle Diary proved that dream casting does happen – Ben Kingsley and Glenda
Jackson? Now THAT is inspired.

 

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In regards to list-members’ questions along the line of “who is he\she,
and what have they done\appeared in” , may I suggest the
International Movie Database site, at imdb.com. It’s searchable
in a myriad of ways, so that you can see the entire life’s work of
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Dave
The new production of David Copperfield (screened in the UK over xmas)
is divine. Great cast, great sets, lighting etc.. Don’t miss it. Packet
on its way soon…..PROMISE!Tim

HEY FELLOW HOBANISTS! Delighted to make your acquaintance. On the subject of
possible actors for Mr. R.-C., has anyone noticed that Christopher Walken
may actually have been, in part at least, the inspiration for the character?
In his role as the baddie in the execrable Bond movie View to a Kill, I
remember a scene takes place between him and Grace Jones on a judo mat that
bears more than a passing resemblance to what happens to the hapless
Jonathan. Of course, Mr. Hoban being the master that he is, he ups the ante
with a combination of understatement and use of music to create a scene that
is chilling and memorable (as opposed to pointless, silly and faintly
exploitative). Walken with a ‘tache gets my vote, anyway.Incidentally, the use of music in Hoban’s books is an interesting one. I got
into Piazzolla and Takemitsu as a result of Mr. R.-C., both of whom are
fantastic, and Bach’s Art of Fugue with its ‘legs like stilts of centuries’
is rapidly becoming a favourite too despite (post-Fremder) it being, well,
bloody scary. But I don’t know any other writers who deliberately refer so
much to particular pieces like Hoban does. It’s the same with particular
works of art, too.

But this is what I want to ask about: I particularly love the man’s
children’s books, despite (but maybe slightly because of-) them being
sodding difficult to get hold of. Does anyone know where I can lay my hands
on either of the Captain Najork books? They won loads of awards when they
came out and probably helped Quentin Blake towards becoming the household
name he is now, but the books themselves just seem to have dropped off the
face of the planet.

That’s all I can think of for now. I look forward to hearing more from all
of you. Best Wishes,
Sam

This polling mechanism is pretty slick. Am I the only one who’s never seen this
before? Dave, how about another reality-gripping poll?

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Sam wrote:

>HEY FELLOW HOBANISTS! Delighted to make your acquaintance.

 

Hey Sam, welcome to the list.

On the subject of

>possible actors for Mr. R.-C., has anyone noticed that Christopher Walken
>may actually have been, in part at least, the inspiration for the character?

 

You know, just for fun, I think I’ll eventually run this question by Mr. H
just to get his take on it. But of course I’m going to wait to do it till
*after* the poll is closed, to avoid influencing the outcome with input
from the Ultimate Authority.

>Does anyone know where I can lay my hands
>on either of the Captain Najork books? They won loads of awards when they
>came out and probably helped Quentin Blake towards becoming the household
>name he is now, but the books themselves just seem to have dropped off the
>face of the planet.

 

Best advice I can give you is to try looking for used copies on
Bibliofind… http://www.bibliofind.com . Basically the same advice Duane
Spurlock gave to Aaron recently. (Welcome also to Aaron. And thanks for
mentioning that Geegaw site…quite interesting.) I was sorry to hear
Fremder and Rinyo are no longer available through Amazon UK, but not really
surprised, since it seems pretty clear that J. Cape is getting out of the
Hoban business. On the upside, if we’re lucky maybe Bloomsbury will be
issuing those books in long-overdue paper editions eventually.

Richard wrote:

>This polling mechanism is pretty slick. Am I the only one who’s never
>seen this

before? Dave, how about another reality-gripping poll?

I am open to requests if anyone wants to suggest another poll topic.

On the subject of the current poll, I said I would close it tonight, and
it’s tempting to do so while my candidate has the slight lead–the Walken
party is currently nosing out the O’Toole party by one vote, 4-3. However,
since that means only 7 of the list’s approximately 49 members have voted,
I’m also tempted to extend the vote a bit in case anyone else wants to
weigh in. It’s possible that there are a lot of folks out there who haven’t
voted because they just haven’t had the opportunity to read Mr
Rinyo-Clacton’s Offer yet, what with the availability issues and all. But
just for the heck of it, I think I’m going to extend the vote till
Thursday–that way I’ll feel more assured that no one has been left out of
this earth-shaking, life-changing, world-shattering decision.

Dave

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Dave A. wrote:

>It’s possible that there are a lot of folks out there who haven’t
>voted because they just haven’t had the opportunity to read Mr
>Rinyo-Clacton’s Offer yet, what with the availability issues and all.

 

I’d guess that you’re right here – that’s why I haven’t participated,
so don’t feel we’re being neglectful! I need to find a copy and
then find time to catch up on my reading.

Ted Curtin

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Nice one, Ted!What an excellent Website.

(Just what I needed, too – couldn’t remember how to spell ‘Gattaca’ for my latest editor’s note…)

Chris Bell

Subject: Film\director\actor info resource

In regards to list-members’ questions along the line of “who is he\she, and what have they done\appeared in” , may I suggest the International Movie Database site, at imdb.com. It’s searchable in a myriad of ways, so that you can see the entire life’s work of
an actor, director, screenwriter, find famous lines etc., etc..

Regards to all, Ted Curtin

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Welcome aboard, Sam! There’s plenty of greasy bloaters and mashed potato sog for all.Sam wrote:

>But I don’t know any other writers who deliberately >refer so much to particular pieces like Hoban does.<

 

I do, Sam – in my anthology of short stories, ‘The Bumper Book of Lies’ (it even has its own ‘soundtrack’ listing)… but guess who gave me the idea 😉

>Does anyone know where I can lay my hands
>on either of the Captain Najork books?<

 

I didn’t even know there were two…
I bought ‘How Tom Beat Captain Najork and his [Famous?] Sportsmen’, but I gave it to my niece, who loves it.

I think I bought my copy at one of the big bookshops on London’s Charing Cross Road at the time ‘The Moment Under The Moment’ was published. Probably not much help…

Dave wrote:

>I am open to requests if anyone wants to suggest >another poll topic.

 

Well, why don’t we work our way through all the other roles, while we’re at it – we’re not going to get Messrs. Lucas and Spielberg interested if only one role’s been cast (only kidding).

Chris Bell

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Well, the good news is this: Mr. Hoban has finally received his birthday
bottle, and is awfully pleased with it. In fact, it arrived just in time to
serve as a de facto “congratulations on wrapping up Amaryllis” bottle. I
just got a couple of effusive messages from him thanking us all for the
gesture, which I will share below. The only annoying part is that the bozos
at Master of Malt (which will hereafter be referred to on this list as
“Morons of Malt”) forgot to enclose the message Diana had so carefully
typed out, with everyone’s names. Fortunately Mr. Hoban knew it was from
our gang, since I had mentioned it to him previously. Diana is going to
follow up and email him the message with everyone’s names, so no real harm
done.In the meantime, I think Diana deserves a large round of applause for her
heroic patience and persistence in dealing with these Pinheads of
Scotch(TM). Next year if we do something similar, maybe we’ll figure out a
more conventional delivery system to use, or at least go with a larger and
better-known online merchant.

Here’s what Russ had to say:

> I’ve just received a bottle of 25-year old Macallan Anniversary Malt. It
>arrived in a beautiful little bottle-sized crate which was packed in a
>cardboard
>box with plenty of packing between the two. Thank you! There was no card
>in the
>crate so I can’t thank everyone by name who joined in this birthday present.
>Please than the Kraken for me and tell them that this gift will go down very
>well here.

 

He went on to say that he was “finishing up odds and ends of AMARYLLIS
NIGHT AND DAY–acknowledgements page, sources of quotes etc.” Then, a
little while later, he wrote:

> I’ve just celebrated the completion of AMARYLLIS NIGHT AND DAY with my
>birthday Macallan. Woordos, worods cannot express my appreciation.

 

Sounds like it hit the spot. By the way, that is indeed the latest, and
probably final incarnation of the title–singular “Night and Day” as
opposed to “Nights and Days” as previously reported.

Dave

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If anybody’s interested there is a great essay by Russell at the Walter de la Mare Societys website. I thought it was great.
Naturally he’s talking about de la Mare, but I learnt as much about him. I hope you like it.
It can be found at www.bluetree.co.uk/wdlmsociety .
Look in the Online Critical Studies.David Lloyd

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I bought a picture book for my one-year old
written by Tana Hoban. I thought she might be
Russell’s daughter. Turns out she is his ‘older’
sister, and quite distinguished in her own right.
Read about her at
http://www.lib.usm.edu/~degrum/findaids/hobantan.htmMy son loves her book. It has become well chewed.

The following the-kraken poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:POLL QUESTION: Who would play Mr Rinyo-Clacton in the ideal film version of Mr Rinyo-Clacton’s Offer?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
– Ian McKellan, 0 votes, 0.00%
– Jack Nicholson, 0 votes, 0.00%
– Laurence Olivier, 0 votes, 0.00%
– Peter O’Toole, 4 votes, 50.00%
– Christopher Walken, 4 votes, 50.00%

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